Thats a lot

[Bigplumbs]

I was having as look on ebay as one does and came across this pic. My immediate thought was that is a lot of people in a speedboat. I know some are quite small and judging by the river it is on it will only go slow but do you consider this safe. It is an 18.5 footer and I count 13 (Not a good number) people

Regards

Dennis

[Xboatboyx]

Yes the boat is over its recommended limit which is usually 6 or 7 on bowriders plus luggage. However as you say it's on the river so not really an issue, I certainly wouldn't go to sea with that many people.

[betty boop]

Yes the boat is over its recommended limit which is usually 6 or 7 on bowriders plus luggage. However as you say it's on the river so not really an issue, I certainly wouldn't go to sea with that many people.

death by drowning and cold water shock? putting on my don't be so stupid RNLI head. some of the kids aren't wearing lifejackets, as you'll know currents around weirs can (and regularly do) kill people. driver isn't wearing a kill cord, one slip and over goes a kid, one reach for a beer can and the throttle falls forward, - kid under the boat and then what? Minced Chav?

We had a Lab fly off the front (actually pushed by the other Lab running forward to bark at a Swan at the bow), fun though it was it was only me tugging sharply on the kill cord stopped him being minced, He surfaced just within reach of prop. All hypothetical but you get the idea why not be so stupid.

[mlines]

So at €3000 per person that's €36000 for a one way cross channel trip

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[shibbs]

I don't think the numbers are so much an issue as long as the boat is being driven with that in mind!
I would certainly expect to see a few more life jackets though, at least on the kids if no one else.

[BruceK]

I don't think the numbers are so much an issue as long as the boat is being driven with that in mind!
I would certainly expect to see a few more life jackets though, at least on the kids if no one else.

You'd be wrong on the numbers count. Should an accident happen there would be a manslaughter prosecution for overloading above the boat's plated capacity not withstanding 12 is the legal max before codifying, commercial etc anyway.

[mlines]

As I understand it the plated capacity has no legal meaning in small leisure boats in the UK unless you load it to a capacity which means you become commercial which is something like 17 passengers. However it would be considered reckless and failing a duty of care which would be a offence

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[BruceK]

Dont know. Seems pretty clear cut to me

By Law

definition: "passenger ship" - carries more than 12 passengers regardless of its size and use.

Passenger ships need to be coded

https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/public/c4/so ... _final.pdf

at which point the plate does have legal standing.


All this is semantics though. Not a bright move regardless of legal standing.

[mlines]

No not a bright move,.

That document refers to commercial use.

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[BruceK]

But that is my point. More than 12 passengers puts it as a passenger ship, as a passenger ship it needs coding (as per commercial use)

here:

If more than 12 passengers are carried, irrespective of whether payment is made, the
vessel is a “passenger ship” under UK Merchant Shipping regulations and needs to be
appropriately surveyed and certificated. If more than 12 passengers are intended to be
carried, the MCA must be contacted through the nearest MCA Marine Office . The local
MCA Marine Office will provide guidance on the procedures and standards to be followed
for a pleasure vessel intending to carry more than 12 passengers.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... essels.pdf