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Servicing prices?

by Bigplumbs » 31 Jan 2017, 22:47

Xboatboyx wrote:Another thing to consider is boats maintained by engineers with receipts look much more attractive to buyers upon resale. I bet that Matt and colin's boats service history helped sell them along with condition. I don't think i would want a boat with no service history and receipts.


I was wondering when the old paperwork argument would raise its head. This again makes the assumption that the person writing the paperwork did the work properly or indeed did the work at all. Very sad if paperwork take precedence over what was actually done

In my view the world is far too full of paperwork
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by sprocker » 01 Feb 2017, 07:56

Bigplumbs wrote:I was wondering when the old paperwork argument would raise its head. This again makes the assumption that the person writing the paperwork did the work properly or indeed did the work at all. Very sad if paperwork take precedence over what was actually done

In my view the world is far too full of paperwork


That's why we choose a marine engineer that comes with lots of recommendations, and one that we trust.

I'm an engineer in the medical sector, the things we manufacture go inside people.........let me tell you about paperwork!!
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by betty boop » 01 Feb 2017, 09:06

Bigplumbs wrote:
Xboatboyx wrote:Another thing to consider is boats maintained by engineers with receipts look much more attractive to buyers upon resale. I bet that Matt and colin's boats service history helped sell them along with condition. I don't think i would want a boat with no service history and receipts.


I was wondering when the old paperwork argument would raise its head. This again makes the assumption that the person writing the paperwork did the work properly or indeed did the work at all. Very sad if paperwork take precedence over what was actually done

In my view the world is far too full of paperwork



cars and boats fundamentally different sale items in my opinion. Cars - although I don't agree with dealer stamps to prove servicing (having stamped a few in a garage without servicing them in a previous life), my own Passat was VW stamped for 6 years but they still missed the Cam Belt n pump change at 100k

Boats, When I sold Betty and no one asked about paperwork or service detail at all, not even original receipt. I did have a service pack that I found by accident this weekend and posted it to the new owner this week, and I did the same stupid thing with Equinox, the Dealer said he had the majority of the service pack 'online' but just cant seem to get around to sending me evidence it was 'fully serviced' by him for 4 years. :oops:

Each sale is different, would I buy a boat with no servicing documents - yes if it was from a nice guy with a caring attitude selling his baby and it was looked after. Would I buy one from the pikey around the corner selling it from the back of his transit on an Ebay add - :lol: .
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by lewlew100 » 01 Feb 2017, 10:39

When buying a boat, IMHO it all depends on what type/selling price and condition etc. as to the the importance of paperwork/service history etc. If the boat is fairly new, and has only had one or two owners it will almost certainly have a fully documented history. If the boat is 20years old and had several owners. it is likely that the very early paperwork history may be available, but not much for more recent years, other than perhaps a few recent bills. When buying a boat (especially an older one) common sense (not so common!!!) should enable a reasonable judgment to be made about the boats general condition. The bigger boats (bigger bucks) are likely to have had a survey at some stage and if so a copy of that will probably be available. The condition of the boat, its mechanicals, engine, drives/gearboxes steering etc. can be inspected and an idea of the life the boat has led can soon be formed. Much loved? cherished? neglected? The buyer can soon form on opinion and make his/her opinion and decide if the deal is worth doing - with or without a full service history, just as you would with a car. Geoff.
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by Bigplumbs » 01 Feb 2017, 11:28

lewlew100 wrote:When buying a boat, IMHO it all depends on what type/selling price and condition etc. as to the the importance of paperwork/service history etc. If the boat is fairly new, and has only had one or two owners it will almost certainly have a fully documented history. If the boat is 20years old and had several owners. it is likely that the very early paperwork history may be available, but not much for more recent years, other than perhaps a few recent bills. When buying a boat (especially an older one) common sense (not so common!!!) should enable a reasonable judgment to be made about the boats general condition. The bigger boats (bigger bucks) are likely to have had a survey at some stage and if so a copy of that will probably be available. The condition of the boat, its mechanicals, engine, drives/gearboxes steering etc. can be inspected and an idea of the life the boat has led can soon be formed. Much loved? cherished? neglected? The buyer can soon form on opinion and make his/her opinion and decide if the deal is worth doing - with or without a full service history, just as you would with a car. Geoff.


Very well said that is the way to do it. In the end you still have to take that leap of faith which might be small or quite large

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by Stevie101 » 01 Feb 2017, 13:56

Paperwork is a strange thing with boats.
This is my third boat and I was shocked when buying my first boat, that there was no log book???
I think keeping receipts is always a good idea when replacing items on vehicles to show the buyer what care has been taken.
I think I'm going to keep all the receipts for the consumables and I may even film some of it for you tube lol which can then also be passed onto a prospective buyer.
(No that I'm trading up yet lol)
I totally agree with what's been said about garages stamping service books for work not done, it means bugger all.
If it's got Tyres, Tits or goes on the water it's going to be expensive
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by mlines » 01 Feb 2017, 14:27

A good selection of receipts etc. with a trail back over the years shows that someone cared for the boat. Yes, its no guarantee that the work was done properly but its a sign that the boat was loved.

So if you are doing it yourself, preserve the receipts.

When the buyer is standing in front of your boat trying to decide whether to purchase or go and buy the "one down the road thats cheaper", a good wedge of history can sway the deal.
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by MartynG » 01 Feb 2017, 20:45

When I sold my last boat I took in the service receipts to the broker.
Such was his interest he nearly snatched my hand off . Therefore service history certainly has a value.

When buying I guess you have to decide whether the documentation is genuine or fraudulent.
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by lewlew100 » 01 Feb 2017, 23:59

Of course a full service history, part history, receipts and indeed any documentation is very desirable if available, and will I am sure help achieve "top dollar", especially with fairly new boats. If in the market for an older boat that has probably passed through several hands you may be lucky and find find a boat with stacks of paperwork, bills etc. (could too much already spent frighten some buyers off?), but there is a good chance that not much is to hand. Brokers will always be very pleased with any documentation as I am sure it makes their job a bit easier, but most will also sing the glories of any boat they are selling with or without. I personally think that most of the older smaller cheaper boats (the ones most likely to be not have FSH) are probably sold privately and not through a broker/dealer anyway unless part of a PX arrangement. Geoff.
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