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Bowrider in the Solent?

by tim.holling » 12 Aug 2015, 18:08

ColinR wrote:One comment I would make about whatever boat you are looking at is to find out something called the deadrise.

It is the angle of the hull V at the stern and really makes a huge difference to the boat's ability to handle the chop.

My old Maxum (1991) was almost flat and slammed something rotten as would most older American boats as they were designed for lake use..

Fletchers are pretty good as are most more modern boats, built more for UK conditions,. I think my Monterey is 19degrees.

Try to get somewhere near 18 plus degrees if you can. The compromise is speed over comfort, Flatter is faster, higher cuts the chop better.

Useful to know. Many thanks.

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by ian h » 12 Aug 2015, 20:03

I started off with a Fletcher 17GTS 3.0 L inboard ,
Was a much smoother ride than the Same size Larson . And it was faster :D

I prefered the inboard to outboard as the Centre of Gravity I felt is lower with inboard and gave more usable boat space with nice sun pad.
What I found was that we kept the bow cover on quite a bit so if we did take the odd wave it did not flood the boat .
As others have said look for the steeper dead rise for a smoother ride, Less slamming,

I had the Fletcher for 6 years and had great fun in it,
Then traded up to the Hunton............ :lol:
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by Bigplumbs » 13 Aug 2015, 06:41

The later Fletchers have a bow rider and a solid bow cover which is a great combination. I love mine, I got the complete rig for £5500, Pic below without the bow solid cover attached. Engine is a 115 hp 2 stroke outboard good for 40 knots

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by tim.holling » 13 Aug 2015, 10:03

Bigplumbs wrote:The later Fletchers have a bow rider and a solid bow cover which is a great combination. I love mine, I got the complete rig for £5500, Pic below without the bow solid cover attached. Engine is a 115 hp 2 stroke outboard good for 40 knots

Dennis

Cheers for the info. Does sound like the best of both worlds. Good value too.

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by ColinR » 13 Aug 2015, 14:30

How about this

http://www.southamptonwaters.co.uk/

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Year: 1998
Current Price: £ 8,995
Located in Hampshire, United Kingdom
Hull Material: Fiberglass
Engine/Fuel Type: Single Gas

Regal 1950 Cuddy cabin sports boat, Mercruiser 3.0ltr inboard, fantastic styling with great cock pit space, great sports boat offering very good performance with economy to match, having just arrived she has been competitively priced to sell soon, a great feature includes full camper covers fitted less than 6 months ago, great family weekender and available to view now.
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by tim.holling » 13 Aug 2015, 17:24

ColinR wrote:How about this

http://www.southamptonwaters.co.uk/

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Year: 1998
Current Price: £ 8,995
Located in Hampshire, United Kingdom
Hull Material: Fiberglass
Engine/Fuel Type: Single Gas

Regal 1950 Cuddy cabin sports boat, Mercruiser 3.0ltr inboard, fantastic styling with great cock pit space, great sports boat offering very good performance with economy to match, having just arrived she has been competitively priced to sell soon, a great feature includes full camper covers fitted less than 6 months ago, great family weekender and available to view now.

Looks very nice indeed. Unfortunately still in the investigation stage, money not available for a while. Sort of thing to go for though.

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by argonaut » 17 Aug 2015, 13:54

I have had closed bow & bowrider.

One consideration is how will you board ?
Where I launch there are no pontoons, so only way on at the launch ramp is over the bow .......... a bow rider is much better for this.

If you are going off-shore then a closed bow /or cuddy is way to go, if you are staying in-shore then no problem in an open bow.
Learn to drive it properly and you won't take a load of water over the front.

I also like the extra room a bow rider gives - especially the under-seat lockers.

I had a good off-shore heritage racing hull at one point and yes you need a deep vee if venturing out in the big waters, but many US boats will also have a reasonable vee on the hull ....

How it performs in a swell is seriously influenced by length and beam ............ less than 18' can be a rough ride in UK in-shore waster, my current tub has 19'4' running surface 8'4" beam and a 19 degree vee
It handles in-shore chop and swell with no problem at all.

Here is a nice old 23' for sale ....

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/news/ ... oat-sale-0
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by tim.holling » 19 Aug 2015, 15:17

argonaut wrote:I have had closed bow & bowrider.

One consideration is how will you board ?
Where I launch there are no pontoons, so only way on at the launch ramp is over the bow .......... a bow rider is much better for this.

If you are going off-shore then a closed bow /or cuddy is way to go, if you are staying in-shore then no problem in an open bow.
Learn to drive it properly and you won't take a load of water over the front.

I also like the extra room a bow rider gives - especially the under-seat lockers.

I had a good off-shore heritage racing hull at one point and yes you need a deep vee if venturing out in the big waters, but many US boats will also have a reasonable vee on the hull ....

How it performs in a swell is seriously influenced by length and beam ............ less than 18' can be a rough ride in UK in-shore waster, my current tub has 19'4' running surface 8'4" beam and a 19 degree vee
It handles in-shore chop and swell with no problem at all.

Here is a nice old 23' for sale ....

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/news/ ... oat-sale-0

Thanks for the feedback. Probably launching with no pontoon so getting aboard is a factor. Thanks

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by tim.holling » 19 Aug 2015, 15:18

argonaut wrote:I have had closed bow & bowrider.

One consideration is how will you board ?
Where I launch there are no pontoons, so only way on at the launch ramp is over the bow .......... a bow rider is much better for this.

If you are going off-shore then a closed bow /or cuddy is way to go, if you are staying in-shore then no problem in an open bow.
Learn to drive it properly and you won't take a load of water over the front.

I also like the extra room a bow rider gives - especially the under-seat lockers.

I had a good off-shore heritage racing hull at one point and yes you need a deep vee if venturing out in the big waters, but many US boats will also have a reasonable vee on the hull ....

How it performs in a swell is seriously influenced by length and beam ............ less than 18' can be a rough ride in UK in-shore waster, my current tub has 19'4' running surface 8'4" beam and a 19 degree vee
It handles in-shore chop and swell with no problem at all.

Here is a nice old 23' for sale ....

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/news/ ... oat-sale-0

Thanks for the feedback. Probably launching with no pontoon so getting aboard is a factor. Thanks

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